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Tammy and Sabine in the shower were also great. The routine hookup in the shower, then the fact that she notices the comm jam and it instantly becomes sinister. The panel with Tammy holding her arms against the wall while the worm infects her is sizzling. Again Tammy's calm and encouraging demeanor while she is physically holding her friend down to infect her i just hawt.
The couple panels of what York did to Nicole to try and "break" her were hot as well.
I also very much enjoyed the off screen asskicking that Melcthion dished out, requiring almost every infected member of CORE to subdue her.
2) Types 1-4 are all appealing in their own way. As for A-D, I feel the same way, but a little bit less so for type A. I don't really have strong favorites. Diversity is the spice of life. Too much of type one for instance could start to feel less powerful.
3) Nothing springs to mind. Keep making awesome stuff!
4) Obviously what is Hive's next move, what does Melcthion plan to do about her organization nearly being destroyed (maybe make more officers like Nicole or Katka?), what is the general fallout in the group from almost everyone getting mind controlled, are any precautions going to be taken regarding the booby traps and backdoors that Exis left behind? Will Hive make Melanie enslave someone close to her next?
5) I liked the infected licking their lips. It's a little creepy, a little sexy, and a simple way to communicate they're infected when we might otherwise not know. I liked the Jack cameo. The difference between what Core saw in the conference with Marquart and what was actually happening at Marquart was cool. All the officers talking about where sororitization (love that word by the way) is allowed was really funny. The final line of the issue is haunting and sexy and a perfect cliffhanger. That's all that sticks out at the moment, but I could probably keep going if I thought on it longer.
6) It was definitely a departure, but a great one. I personally think it's satisfactory as a single issue. It has the feel of a reset at the end with Mel swooping in to kill all the parasites, like the status quo reasserts itself. This issue had that episodic feel like from a tv show. Pretty much everything would be cool to revisit in some fashion, even the exact same parasites, but I'd be careful with the huge scale mind control and then reset. Some other comics I've read abuse that narrative device (or whatever your want to call it) over and over again with the same characters to the point that nothing that happens to anyone feels like it matters because you expect a reset to the status quo at the end and that makes it kinda boring to read. This wasn't boring in any way and it actually did manage to still further the main plot, I'm just wary of resets like that. I hope this made sense.
7) Wherever this goes I'm on board. I don't want to think too long about what I want to see next, I'd rather just enjoy the ride.
8) Whatever length is easiest to produce is the best. I'm not particular on how much gets released and when.
I really love what you two do. You are amazing and lovely!!
2. I like two a ton, where the original personality is barely recognizable but corrupted through a lens of control. And 'C' where the Parasite grows into the host, especially if there are visible effects. (Tabico's "Pierced" comes to mind.)
3. I wished that the parasites had survived in some capacity outside of being bred by the HIVE (though genetic editing by the HIVE or selective breeding could be a cool direction to take that.)
4. Just how comfortable is Tammy with taking this submission thing? Is it gonna come back to bite her? What are HIVE's plans for core?
5. The effects and appearances of the parasite were top notch
6. I like the idea of biological third parties interfering with this shadow war. They often have different strategies than CORE or HIVE and it's interesting to see how they mesh (and hot of course)
7. the HIVE's entrenchment in the school, what other R&D are they working on, other types of drones, how kinky CORE is going to get as time goes on.
8. 75-100 pages sounds about good.
2. I like all types of mind control, specifically when vary the physical form as Bimbottization or Robotization, Hive.
3. I would like to see Melanie ”super core implants” with hive transformation.
4. Who moves the threads of the hive.
5. I especially like the attention to characters and settings, not rech to enjoy at the bottom of the dialogs for my problems in translating: the figures strike the very first of the dialogues. You may not of course translate it in all languages of the world.
6. When characters gain becomes a bit more difficult to follow the story. Sometimes it is necessary to go to review the previous chapters in order to fully understand the story.
7. I would like to see more transformations, and more mind control. To see a character as strong as Tammy's submissive pleasure.
8. I like when there are 150+ pages, but each time I can't wait to read it.
Excuse me if I answer so late, and for the simplicity of my answers but it takes me time to translate everything. Good work! Bye!
2) 4b or 4C. Mel is probably the best example. If you extend the metaphor to programming rather than a living organism, she would be a 4C - fully herself, but with her motivations altered. And her programming is integrated into her existing memories, altering and replacing them to reinforce her enslavement.
3) The one with the pink mohawk was hot, I would like to see more of her.
4) What is the connection between Hive and the worms? What are their plans for them in the future?
5) I always like the hard nipples.
6) It worked as a standalone, but I would like to see them come back, especially to answer the questions in #4.
7) I'd like to see Hive start being more active, and actually start using Mel. Have her start eroding CORE from the inside, specifically by corrupting her friends. I would imagine she could find the same files on Tammy that York did.
8) Too short, and you have too many releases that are just exposition or setup. Too long, and my inner Veruca Salt kicks in. I think 100-120 is a good number. 5, 7, and 9 are my favorites, and they're all right around 100. Enough time to build the story, and throw in a few extra hot scenes.
The serial recruitment was great, but it was narratively sabotaged from the get go. It would have had more impact if it hadn't been let loose that Hive considered that this to be a temporary experiment (page 39). Realistically, not all of CORE was going to be captured by the Leashworms forever, but the impact of the enslavement was quite reduced since we knew up front that even if the worms succeeded, they would be terminated anyway.
1 (Erasal) - Not so much fun for me, because then there's no struggle. Certainly not for the main character. Might be hot as an end point, but this has an air of finality to it.
2 (Suppression/Elimination/Blending) - This one can be fun if it's handled delicately. Not a lot left of the original person here, though.
3 (Personality Alteration) - This one is fun. The slave knows that it's been altered, but it can't help itself but to obey.
4 (Supplantation) - I do quite enjoy this as well.
A (Physical Replacement [New Body & Brain]) - This one is not so bad, as presumably the original body is still kicking around somewhere, hopefully having a fun time. Not so fun if the original body no longer exists.
B (Major Replacement [Brain]) - I'm not a huge fan, as now you've replaced the personality of the character with an unknown creature. This could be milked for awhile, I suppose, but in the end that person no longer really exists.
C (Bio-Integration) - Yes please! Symbiosis/Parasitism is really quite fun.
D (Habitation) - This is quite fun, too, but has a lesser impact for me, as it seems inevitably the worm/creature is removed without any trouble. There's no insidiousness to the control, it just... stops.
In summary, 2-4, and C-D are my favorites.
3) I hate to say it, but I really want to see more Hive. But I know that's tricky, as using them to enslave major parts of CORE makes it impossible to continue the standard story line. I'm hard pressed on this one. I assume we'll see some yummy treachery in the future using Leashworms, and I do look forward to that.
4) When are those Leashworms going to be used in an actual operation by Hive? What is task ZHH6.0? What are Hive's plans? Who will be enslaved by Hive next? Will CORE find out they've already been infiltrated by Hive? Will that person be turned into a Hive drone?
5) Nothing in particular stood out, the writing was excellent as usual. I would say that I did quite enjoy the explanation of different mind control types on page 75.
6) Yes, it was very satisfactory as a standalone issue. I do really still want to see what Hive is doing, though! I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Leashworms used in an interesting way in the future.
7) More Hive! More Hive! More Hive! You know my preference.
8) I do really enjoy the longer issues, and I suppose some of the length should be dictated by the stories you both wish to tell. I'd hate to contrain you to a particular size, as I am perfectly happy waiting as long as necessary for the next issue. You're not losing an audience member here!
2. 4c. I love the conversion of an innocent into a sleeper agent who can sabatoge from behind the scenes.
3. I would have liked to have seen Mel do a little more in subverting things or corrupting someone from behind the scenes. I also would have prefered watching a "soft" corruption. Someone seemingly normal sit at a computer maybe something along the implied corruption from "guide tour."
4. I wouldn't mind seeing a little more about what hive's ultimate plans are. What they are waiting for and why they are taking the roundabout approach.
5. Nice work with the eyes after someone was converted by the worms. There was a clear "giving in" moment that was a great touch.
6. I'm totally fine with tangential story-lines. It was an unexpected reminder there are more things to be worried about than just battling Hive. So while I say "I wouldn't have minded more progression to the main arcs" I also am totally fine with taking detours.
7. I would love to see more innocent folk slowly succumb to subtle programming. Maybe a sleeper in a church corrupting a women's group where an influential leader happens to partake of during her spare time. Maybe it's not even a sleeper sneaking in but someone in the group checking a website they know better than to check... and it reveals to hive a hidden asset there. That would be a hot tangent.
8. 10-15 is probably too much of a tease but somewhwere in the 25-75 range would be a fine change if it meant more frequent updates. It would encourage "re-reading" of past releases.
Keep up the great work!
Well I put a lot more into this than I expected but, here's my delayed thoughts.
1) Favorite scenes of #12....that's tough. Let me go chronologically to answer that. The first scene with York getting infected got me shivering with excitement for the chapter, great way to start off (although it did mean we were not really going to get any glimpse into who she is as a character since she was being controlled for almost entire chapter but that can be addressed in future chapters).
Next I would of course have to bring Mel and Rebekka's scene though it was disappointingly too short, but I understand this wasn't going to be the focus of the chapter so I wasn't too hung up on that.
York and Tammy's scene is probably tied for hottest scene of this chapter. And how you've given Tammy more weak points undoes much of how much she seemed like a mary sue after Ch. 8. Which is good, this makes her a lot more enjoyable character and while I don't expect her to overtake Mel when it comes to my interest in this story, this definitely made her fun again. Also the fact now that if York gets compromised, so does Tammy is intriguing to think about.
Also tied for hottest scene would be Tammy and Sabine's shower scene. There was something so engrossing with how Tammy just nonchalantly brings up she is betraying her in this scene, and I know it's kinda of a cliche in this genre, but I still love it.
And finally, Mel's last scene with the Uzobono cameo just to cement what we were expecting Mel to do. Mel continuing down the path of the hive is always hot and nice to see. Though sometimes I do wish the hive's intentions with her weren't so vague and mysterious to the reader (maybe even you haven't figured out Mel's endgame and this is just to buy time which I understand that you want everything to line up just right, it just feels like a big tease to the readers which for now I'm still completely game for. Like I said before what makes this series addicting is the not knowing the betrayals and conversions but as a reader expecting a payoff at some point.)
2) This one actually made me go back and have to find the exact scene to answer.
On the numbers side of the code, definetly 1,2, and 3 are the hottest in my opinion, probably would put 2 first. The whole aspect that there is a sliver of the former self there potentially fighting control but ultimately blending personalities as you put it. While I still find it hot, 4 appeals the least because I see it as something that would be apart of the other three choices, not a stand alone method of control, more like a guide into suppressing or rewriting personalities.
As for the A-D part, A and B would be at the top followed by D and C. From a young age, body snatcher stories really grabbed my attention. Looking the same yet being completely different character and no one suspecting is a turn on in your stories (I'm looking forward to seeing "Yuki" again). And B is just internal rewriting. I love seeing characters droned but a major physical change isn't necessary to make it hot. As for C, it maybe the wording of it but when I read that I thought of like a slow external fusing between the parasite and victim and that just doesn't appeal to me. If the changes are physical I like it like how you do drones, a fluid morphing of the body. I guess looking to Tabico's other works for an example, Adaption was not something I got into (the image of an insect burrowing into the back of your neck is not a turn on for me) but Pierced I enjoyed a lot (will it get finished?), if that helps clarify at all.
3) I feel I'll say this every chapter: MORE MEL BEING A HIVE SLAVE PLEASE. But of course don't force it. Like I said before I get that wasn't the point of this chapter so I wasn't to upset with how little attention her drone persona was given.
I'm curious if the Aria and Core plotlines will ever meet up again. Mel now meeting up with the twins gives a lot of possibilities especially with Yuki's new found purpose.
I would like to see York's personality and potential more. From this chapter it felt she is like Mel but not as lucky (I don't know how else we should described Mel's ability to escape the hive so many times, though it did run out) but also the fact she looked up dirt on Tammy on how to control her puts her in that schemers catergory of Lilit but York doesn't seem to have a vendetta against anyone or anything malicious at all (cause I'm chalking it up as a parasite behavior yet she still figured Tammy out while I'm assuming Mel doesn't know that about Tammy and doesn't know how to figure it out cause I believe she would've already subdued Tammy by now if she could’ve).
The Lilit clones were a tad disappointing. They seem to be suffering from the: “when villains turn good their capabilities get nerfed” trope. I'm saying that because of how easily Lilix got infected and didn't put any fight which I would've expected even if she thought she was doomed I really did think she'd have done more. And Chaz getting completely blindsided when out with Nicole was surprising, that's amateur situational awareness for someone who's supposed to be elite (and same for Nicole) though Chaz at least fought back when surrounded later on.
Continuing on characters not playing up to their potential, Melcthion. I can buy her not expecting her entire agency to turn on her one afternoon but I would expect her to have a plan of some kind if something like that happened. Maybe she had an escape but someone was waiting for her at where it let out and she got infected there. That being said, her reaction of "oh fuck" was hilarious and then doing the rest of that scene off screen I actually enjoyed, it might be a little cliche but I liked it.
4) My questions might seem dumb but they're about what I think are plotholes, unless I forgot something that would've already explained it.
Doesn't Melcthion know Marquart is with the Hive? I assumed her talk with them was merely a playing with formality with how she was threatening her business when I seriously doubt the hive cares because they could easily just use Marquart covertly and not waste effort with a song and dance of running a company.
But going off of that question: why is Mel surprised there's drones at Marquart or why didn't Melcthion inform her about the hive being with Marquart? What does Melcthion gain from not informing her operatives of a potential hazard even if she is suspicious of her own agents?
Why didn't Mel betray the Core at the end? In theory, the entire Core was compromised and Mel could've easily locked them in that room and shut the place down so no way for them to escape and called in the Hive? I get this wasn't supposed to be the last chapter of Core but this seems like that's logically how the chapter could've ended. In a way this chapter might've worked better had it taken place prior to Mel joining the Hive.
Lastly isn't a plothole but just something I'm curious about: when if ever is Mel going to introduce Rebekka to the gang and justify not being a lesbian before?
5) I'm not be the best person to analyze the art though I do see how drastically Uzobono has improved over the series. As for quips that stood out to me, pg 42, thanking Mel for that sim...hope that comes back into play in the near future. Mel and Rebekka's dialogue worked really well how Rebekka so casually controls Mel who just phases in and out subtly and naturally. Like I said before Melcthion's reaction to Core turning on her was fabulous. And also I'd like some light on that final line of the chapter, and maybe see how the fruits of what Mel did back in ch. 10 guaranteeing Core holds no secrets from the Hive.
6) This chapter did feel like kind of a filler, as in how near everything is confined to this chapter; the conflict is resolved and everything almost is the same as when the chapter started. I don't think that's a bad thing cause it lets you play with other forms of mc and I know I did request not to leave so many cliff hangers. It's a mixed feeling. As a single issue it was pretty good. I struggle to see how you can now actually work the worms back into the plot, that solution for them was very much a deus ex machina moment, but I don't know where you would plan to take them. One thing I should say is in these chapters that feel like filler at the end, don't defeat nearly every character. When everyone but Mel was infected and then knowing this wasn't the end of the series, most if not all the tension was lost in the final confrontation.
7) As always I love seeing drone Mel in the spotlight and seeing her operating and not just hinting at what she's doing. Definitely want to see Rebekka's role develop. I want to see York, and the Lilit clones develop and show more competence and not get taken down as easily by the Hive.
And like I said earlier, making Mel’s role for the Hive a little more clear, which I guess would mean overall revealing more of the Hive’s plans. You don’t have to reveal much but many mc stories do the whole antagonist going “all is going to plan” trope but the plan is never revealed which makes it rather pointless and I'd like that avoided.
So Sami is now working in a hive front and Mel (and therefore the Hive) is aware of Fiona and the bunnies. I'm expecting to see in the next few chapters where that goes. Also Sabine getting her wish of Mel controlling her. The sim Mel shared is another point I hope you use and expand on. I really hope it's not a red herring.
And I am interested seeing where Tammy and York's relationship goes.
Maybe also get to see what Marquart is doing in more detail besides the worms.
8) I’ve had a consistent opinion about how long I like your comics: whatever length you want to do unless it’s over like 160 pgs in which case split that chapter up into parts. Short little 10-30 pg chapters aren’t bad but I feel they would break up your stories too much, unless you have like a short story that’s only 1 or 2 scenes.
But I do hate the wait and wonder if maybe you could release more teaser images like maybe one image for every 20 pages? I know that might be asking too much but the teasers are so good sometimes during the wait.
Your imagination is better and bigger than mine, so surprise me. You proofed your skills and I like the outcome on each and every page. I don't want to influence you in any way with requests or remarks.
I am compelled to obey.....
First off, thank you both for another excellent issue of CORE.
1. So many favourites to choose from:
- Bad Tammy – we’ve not really seen Tammy as a predatory figure, I liked this.
- Tammy wanting to be controlled – A twist of unexpected hotness.
- The Marquart scene – really neat idea, adding new layers to the Hive powers of subterfuge. Also, really liked the spread legs under the desk and high heels.
- Mel actively working for the Hive – a well-considered scene. Demonstrating how she can aid the hive, whilst teasing how devious she may be in the future.
2. A tough one. My interest predominantly is in the 3/4 – c/d range. With characters I really enjoy, I like the exploration of their ‘decent’ into total control and the internal conflicts that ensue. Favourite would be 4 C, probably.
3. - Would have been nice to have a single shot of Mel ‘kissing’ Rebekka, this would have nicely echoed the later scene with Rebekka and Y-CE.6.29.
- Mel being more hands on with the conversions.
4. - Are we seeing the CORE team becoming more open to the joys of illicit mind control (York and Tammy in particular), or is this just character growth?
- What is Hive planning, and how much control (direct or indirect) does it have over CORE?
- What is to be the fate of Sami, going to work at the Hive café, whilst possessing bio mind control abilities?
- I feel Melcthion can now theoretically trust Mel, but does she?
5. - Tammy’s eyes when she is put under by York.
- Haven’s wanted poster
- Sabine’s impression of the Licky-Worms
- Mel’s glance back at the downed drone.
- The acceptable sororitization options
- The Hsu - Chaz putdown.
6. It felt at its heart to be a great standalone episode, but one that expertly also propelled the overall story forward. It brought bio mind control to the fore of the overall plot. I personally wouldn’t what this to become too ubiquitous (at least not to quickly), but it certainly has great potential.
7. - Liking the relationship between York and Tammy, hoping to see where this leads.
- Would be interesting to see other characters interacting with Rebekka (and Mel when Rebekka is around).
- A story focusing more on Hsu would be really nice. Her character just gets better and better.
8. I’ve been thinking about this since Tabico brought it up. I guess I’ve come to expect the current setup and really enjoy it. Yes, with the first read super hot details and scenes may be slightly overlooked, but the joy of re-reading it (several times) makes up for this. I also think the long format worked well with the current issue, as the story could be effectively told in a single sitting. I feel it’s important for you guys to write in the way that works for you (and changes as needed). Personally, 100+ is an indulgent treat that I always love waiting for.
1) Overall I think I appreciated the technical ambition and execution of the two briefing scenes. I think a minor trick was missed there - the opening of each scene could have been more closely aligned to resemble the other, for comedic comparative effect. There wasn't anything in the issue that stood out to me in terms of fetish factor, except perhaps the ending scenes underlining Rossi's current role in the story.
2) Hmm. firstly I would have included a 'class 5', which is when the host becomes an unwilling prisoner/passenger in their own body. Also for symmetry I'd slot "being subsumed" (i.e. what happens the 'The Thing') in as B, so B-D become C-E. Being subsumed is kind of a blend between A and C.
But ignoring me being pedantic, I think my league table would be:
1-B and 1-C
Then all the others about equal. I think type A tends to make the 1-4 factor redundant, since it almost always overrides those numbered categories.
Of all choices, I'd say type 3 (and my type 5) make for the most interesting writing opportunities. You get to portray inner voices, conflicted/changes beliefs and desires, etc.
3) That neatly leads on to this question - I think there could have been a little more attention paid to at least one character's inner monologue, to depict what's going on beneath the surface of an enslaved victim. Also it might have been cool to explain why the creatures had been developed, perhaps to create a bittersweet or twist ending where they were actually benign and trying to rescue humanity or their own captive relatives/queen, etc.
4) I've already mentioned this via PM - I think the way the denouement scene played out has limited Tabico's options for resolving Mel's sleeper agent character arc. She had the chance to do literally anything Hive could have wanted with Core's entire personnel roster, so care now needs to be taken when Hive's intentions are fully revealed. Also I'm wondering whether being possessed by the creatures has any longer term side-effects, even if just mild ones such as being slightly traumatised/embarrassed. The enduring impact on Tammy was a nice touch of this sort.
5) I really liked the ambitious ensemble scenes, the novel expressions (e.g. bottom right of page 19), the good use of organic/liquid effects and of course the fun misuse of 'sororitization'
6) I hesitate to use the term 'filler', because the issue didn't at all feel like it was delaying something everyone is waiting to happen. This was a great, self-contained 'day in the life' or 'monster of the week' story that I enjoyed a lot and was happy to see fully resolved in a single issue. It balanced the closed arc with side plots that developed character, Core's setting/world and kept longer term threads ticking over in the background.
7) First of all, be careful not to simply drop any particular plot thread because you think it's not working. That's a big error more recent TV shows make and it just smacks of lazy writing. Not that I'd expect you peeps to do that, but just mentioning since it's a pet peeve. Subversion can be fun, but there's a limit to the whole Joss Whedon cynical shock value thing.
I think Core could use a shake-up, but more because it would benefit you via opening up more creative opportunities. For example, maybe the base gets destroyed and the team is forced to operate out of somewhere else. Or an issue focuses on some of the group going on a trip that ends badly with them being forced to live in different surroundings for a while, moving things away from the usual urban setting. Or split the protagonists up into 2-3 splintered groups, designed to deepen relationships that haven't been explored much yet. Create a bit of strife, have a 'lower decks' episode that focuses solely on the secondary characters so we get to see how they view the main gals, rather than vice versa. Have the director leave for a bit so someone else has to run the place. Have a shorter 'bottle episode' that focuses solely on 2-3 characters trapped in a confined space. Or do the James Cameron thing and have part of an issue take place under emergency lighting so you can play around with everything for a run of pages being lit solely in shades or red, green or blue (be careful with red, JPEGs and DA are terrible with red artifacting!)
I know those are all well-worn tropes, but the 'Iron Man 3', 'Agents of Shield' or 'Wayne Manor has been burned down again' thing whereby you change the rules and break a character down to their essentials can be really useful sometimes.
I think that overall my suggestions are about advising you guys to not get burned out due to sticking to the same setting for each issue. Plus I really want so see you use more dynamic natural lighting, e.g. sunrises/sunsets.
Or hey, what about a focus piece where Mel or Tammy needs to escort a possible new recruit, and is forced to realise that person is their former self before descending into the whole wacky rabbit hole of Core.
8) I think 100 pages or thereabouts would be a good balance.
For anyone else who might have missed the info, it's outlined on page 74
2. 3C/D, I think it's the most "typical" in MC stories and so I'm accustomed to it. I think about William Lee's nylon parasites. It's more or less 3C, but implies it transitions to either 1 or 2. It's insidious.
3. So there's these infected individuals on the street. How is the infection seeming to be so limited? How can either Core or the Hive be so sure there isn't further parasitic infection coursing through the city, considering the parasites had appeared to already be reaching maturity in a lab full of parasites and infected? We saw how fast it spread through Core.
4. What wonderful things does the Hive have in store for our parasitic friends?
5. I mentioned the weirdness of the characters licking their lips in that manner.
6. I enjoyed the deviation: it keeps things fresh, if some items stick around it can add back to the list of cast as others are removed as drones. If digressions like this happen again, I'd be happy. And I'm just curious about what the hive intends to do with the worms.
7. I've become curious about Rebekka, and her potential role going forward. If she's discovered by, say, Khan and Al-Farah, can they thereby control Melanie? I'm not suggesting a plot, just thinking because it's interesting.
8. I think you were hovering around the 100 mark for most of the run to this point, and that seems a good number. The last two core installments have ballooned to another 3/4 of that added. If that's what it takes to tell the story you want, no one's going to complain.
2. Type 1-1 or 1-2 would be my favorite and I would hope to see it implemented in some way. The total replacement of a person by a mind control method would be incredibly satisfying to read but only if it is a character we have come to care about. In the series with Haven and Drone 87001R, you made the reader feel the impact of the loss of a character with the takeover of that character by another actor. If that could be seen in CORE it would be an episode that would have no competition.
3. Melanie coming back to CORE to find everyone infected with worms was a plot hole I think that feels like it was missing a scene explaining why Sami and Melanie went back to CORE and why they were suspicious. The glowing bulbs I thought were a proper solution to the worms considering that they originate from where Sami and the other bunnygirls came from.
4. I believe that Melcthion knows Melanie is under the Hive's control, but my question is what is her long game? Exis was the only one that tried to control or attack a Hive and she was an expert and failed. If Melcthion knows about Melanie being a double agent, then why keep her in CORE? Another question that came to mind and was subtly hidden in this episode is that of the fallout from Exis looming over CORE. Chaz was uncomfortable with making out with Tammy and later on horrified with Lilix, and her personality is a far cry from what we saw with the original Lilit who had no qualms about seducing Nicole the first chance she had. The clones seem to be wildcards now that they are free, but they are still creations of Doctor Exis and Nicole was defeated by another of the systems Exis left behind. Where is the original Lilit?
5. The cameos by the cast of characters not present in the current episode always adds a touch of realism that the world outside of the story is still going on. The call between Guerin and Melcthion was done very, very well. I didn't notice it on the first read and thought it was weird she was naked, and was amazed that you put so much attention to detail in that scene. The drone giving orders to Guerin was an underrated gem.
6. This was similar to a one-shot episode that stands tall on its own, and that is heads above many comics. It could have easily been a filler episode where we did not get any progression with Melanie and the Hive and that was executed perfectly. The worm plot was immensely gratifying, and that Hive is experimenting with using bioweapons is sexy and terrifying. I would hope that we see the worms back again, if on a smaller scale, and used by Hive to gain control through other means that converting humans into drones.
7. Anything that is written. The story and setting keeps getting better and richer each episode, where many authors would become stale and repetitive. So far, each issue has increased the risk for the protagonists and the threats have become deeper and more personal.
I would like to see Melanie come into the fold of Erin, Niobe, Phoebe and the rest of the Hive characters. Most of all, Melanie has a perfect body and it would suit Hive to improve it, perhaps making Melanie faster and stronger to compete with the CORE officers if the Hive needs to fight.
8. Do whatever you are comfortable with. It seems like this is a lot of work and both of you put in countless hours of work on it, and my vote is 75-100 pages. CORE #5 was shy of 100 pages and that was another masterpiece, and I think that would be a perfect length if you decide to turn out faster, shorter episodes.
1. My favorite scenes. There are several that really stuck out to me for various reasons. First was the opener with York and Lillix. The art work here was great starting with the first panel with the good morning call out to the city. I love that way you have with that panel, showing a city street and very different looking habitues walking. It hearkens back to some other chapters where you seem to make the city itself a character, with all the detail and posters alluding to things and ultra modern, sinful things going on. It takes real imagination and skill to pull that off and you do it so well. So that first panel drew me in with the art. Then the very funny exchanges between Lillix and York were great. While this is a sexy and also horrific story about a very dystopian, scary place, all good writers know you have to infuse humor in a dark story to lighten it up. Too much darkness can be depressing. Look at the Classic movie Jaws, the screen writer knew just when to relieve the tension with some classic funny scenes, not forced ones, but ones that went with what was happening with the story of the movie. You and Tabico do nice job pulling off that neat trick in Core more than once.
Another is the scene between Rossi and Sami. It really endears Rossi to the reader how she always treats people, even someone who seems slow and is not physically beautiful like Sami, with respect and full attention and empathy. You can just see what a good person Rossi is both in what she says and and the expressions you give her. So kudos to both of you for making her this way. It as also interesting because Sami told her she will be working in place where Melanie met her new "lover" Rebekka. That is a big plot point and I wonder if it is way more than a coincidence. It also makes me wonder if there is a lot more to Sami and her ability than the slow, bumpkin character that she appears.
Another one was the licky worms taking over York and Tammy and the rest. It was just flat out super hot. especially the look on York's and Tammy's' faces when controlled. You are a past master at those looks and I'm sure have gotten a ton of readers hands in their pants looking at those faces. I know I have.
Another was Melanie, even though half controlled by the Hive still saving her friends from the worms. Was this a hive command? I don't know but I think it was just the real Melanie being herself. She cares so much for those she loves.
Then you had the other Melanie betraying those same people and not taking the Hatelaces where Melcthion asked her too. But more on that later.
Of all the characters you put under mind control I think Melanie comes off the hottest when under influence. From what I read many others feel the same. That is I think a combination of things, for one, her normal personality is just so thoughtful, so gentle, so caring. How many times has she cried over something bad? She is such a sweetheart. Yet when the Hive influence comes through her face changes into either a blank mask or a smirking, sometimes evil smile. The dichotomy here between the two is just so spectacular and so freaking hot. It also helps that Melanie is just plain smoking in the looks department.
Then you had Melcthion's chat with Guerin, even after she tried to betray and capture Melcthion. This relationship shows both will deal even with mortal enemies if they think it will serve their purpose. This also once again casts doubt to me about Melcthion's goodness. She seems willing to do anything to get where she wants to go, disposing of pawns or cutting deals with the devil. So what does that make her?
Finally the last chat at the end with among the Hive and their computer thinking girl Y-CE.6.29. It shows like Melcthion they are playing the long game. But a dangerous one for the Hive too. It also makes me wonder, can Melcthion, as smart as she is, stay ahead of this super connected intelligence that anaylizes an all probabilities? Kind of like trying to out think Deep Blue, right? What did they really think of Cores response to the Licky worm threat? Couldn't have been too impressed. They almost got beat if it wasn't for Melanie and Sami.
2. The Mind Control Types. This one is easy for me. Four and Three. The reason is because the base person, the real person is still there. But they have been influenced to have changed their desires in life. They may even think it is their own thoughts guiding them. But they like and obey their new thoughts and desire even to the point of totally changing their lives and betraying their loved ones. That just appeals to me and is hot as hell. Next is two because there still is a template of the original person. The last is number one, because it is really more total physical possession more than mind control. The original person is replaced, doesn't even exist.
3. What would I have liked to see that I didn't? Very easy, lol. And I'm sure if lots of the readers were honest with you they would tell you the exact same thing. Rossi interacting and being controlled by Rebekka. In my view there is nothing even as remotely hot or sexy as Rossi being under the influence of her new "girlfriend." I was hoping they would spend some quality time clubbing (where of course Melanie would be further programed, or working out in a gym together, (where of course Melanie would be further programed, lol ) and then maybe some time in one of their apartments. The teaser that showed Rossi in that dark, skin tight suit made my mouth water. I was um..really hoping......... You know.
Also in the updated bio you had Melanie doing yoga with an instructor who was really with the Hive and she was deepening Rossi. I thought we might see that in 12 too. I wan't to stress this was not a huge disappointment, pleasure postponed is pleasure intensified and I know plenty of that will be coming. The story was so interesting that I was captivated anyway. And York was super hot under the licky worms influence.
But the problem is you Uzobono, lol. You make Rossi so pretty, so gorgeous, then when she is under, often not even knowing she doing things under the influence, you have this way of giving her this dazed, lazy look on her face or this evil, sexy smirk it just begs for more!!! It is just is so damn hot. And I wanted it and I know 99 percent of the readers did too!
4. What questions has Core 12 left me with? Plenty as any good, intelligent story should. What is the role Sami will play? Is she already in cahoots with Melcthion? Is that why she took the job at the place where Melanie met Rebekka? Or does she have her own sixth sense that tells her Melanie is in big trouble and is that why she got in there? Or is the Hive behind it? Lots of questions there but you can see Sami is not a bit player.
Now let's move onto Melanie and the area where there is a problem with her large story line of being a controlled double agent. First off Tabico wrote Melcthion as a genius type character in the clock and dagger trade. Hell, just look at her bio. This woman has seen it all and survived it like few others could. She has this stuff down and she has to be paranoid on top of her intelligence. So there is no way on earth she trusts Rossi at all after she was taken by the Hive. For Tabico to make Rossi an effective double agent she would have had to have Rossi taken on the sly, not like she was where Melcthion and others knew it. The betrayal of Melanie to the Hive was a very dramatic moment in the story but it puts a huge crimp in any story line of Melanie being a surprise double agent to Melcthion. Now Tabico is a very savy smart writer so I strongly suspect she planned it that way and there are clues that Melcthion knows what's up, like her asking Melanie to take the Hatelacers to the jail. A test for her? Or did she want the Hive to have them? Did she do something to the Hatelacers in private as a strike against the Hive once they are converted? Good questions.
But here is the real rub when you go further down that path. The Hive is just as smart as Melcthion. So you see, because they know that Rossi was rescued from them and that Melcthion knows she was held by the Hive, they know Melcthion would not trust Melanie. So the Hive has to know that Melanie is in actuality useless as a double agent since Melcthion would not trust her for anything important and would use her to feed disinformation to the Hive. See the huge problem this presents for that entire plot line? Melcthion and the Hive both have to know Melanie is useless in any capacity as a agent for either of them.
Of course it is very possible that Tabico knew this and has a solution and interesting idea behind all of it.
5. The small visual touches and quips. Like I said, I just love how you populate some of the city shots with with electronic billboard or posters outside clubs or businesses. It gives it all such verisimilitude. It reminds me some of Blade Runner or Seven too how you also can really make some of the milieus so dark and dangerous looking.
The quips between York and Lillix were great. As were the ones between Lillix and the Hatelacer she found. Lillix was just dumbfounded by the Hatelacers actions and her responses were classic; when she started talking about spanking I laughed out loud. Great stuff.
The conversation between Rossi and Sami was terrific. Because of the amazing emotion you always seem to put in Rossi's face and how genuine and real their talk was. You can see at first Rossi was a bit uneasy being alone with the new comer Sami. But as time went on the gentle, caring Rossi won over and you could see a real connection between them grow. Terrific.
6. I had no problem with this story being a self contained unit. Sometimes you want full resolution. Some of the greatest series shows in the X Files or The Sopranos were self contained units. This story was fantastic. Fun, funny, exciting, pushed the plot forward and a bit of a departure from the straight linear story. Is there a scene I would like to revisit? Um, Melanie with Rebekka... and what they were doing there before you introduced their scene. lol. Hell yeah.
7. What would I like to see in future stories? Let's see....how about Rossi under control? Rossi with Rebekka. Rossi all dazed out thinking she is acting on her own but not really. Sorry Uzobono, I had to do it.
Well I always found the restaurant where Rossi met Rebekka very interesting including the cute drones that work there. I'm really looking forward to seeing more of it with Sami now ensconced there and see where that leads.
Of course I think we all want to see what's up with the Rossi-Melcthion-Hive nexus and exactly what kind of chess game is being carried out in that plot line.
Y-CE.6.29 was really going over Core. She said that there would have to be shifts is Core did not behave as desired. What shifts? That was kind of ominous. I also think Tammy, Hsu and Sami may be the ones to save Melanie if she can be saved. I have always been very partial to dark stories, like those the great Trilby Else wrote. Not many happy endings there. Given that and ss much as I drool over controlled Melanie you have made me like her so much, and Tammy and Hsu that I actually hope that somehow the defeat the Hive and Guerin and Melcthion too if she is indeed really evil hiding in sheep's clothing. Of couse Tabico also has written many dark, hopeless stories so if it goes the other way I will just enjoy the ride and get off to my dark kink more, lol.
I really like that character York. Very interesting and you can see she can be a huge asset to Core. And now it looks like she has teamed up with Tammy in a very intimate way. Will Tammy's desire to have York bring out her programmed kink again have a bad effect on her over time? Will their relationship cause problems for the others? I also see them becoming a frighteningly effect duo for Core. Both are so capable in their own spheres.
There are two questions always in the back of my mind: Where did the Hive come from and who is controlling it all the way at the top? Is it a mechanical queen or ruler or human? And if you destroy that ruler does it destroy them as a whole?
The second is Melcthion. Is she a force of good (or at least as good as it gets in this dark world)? Or is she using Core and its member as a guise to take down the Hive and any others and become the supreme mind controller and sheep herder of humanity?
These two questions are always there behind the curtain in every chapter.
One thing about this story unlike many others, you and Tabico do such a great job at keeping the twists coming that I really don't know where this is heading and to be honest, I don't want want even a hint until I read what you both put out. That's the fun of it.
8. What size issues. Uzobono, that would depend on how fast they can be released. The biggest problem with me is the seeming forever wait for the next issue. It seem like it's forever because you and Tabico made this story so damn interesting on top of so damn sexy that I really need to see where the plot is going as soon as I finish it.
So I would say this, I vote for the one that would let us readers get more every few weeks if that was possible, kind of like the stories on Metrobay Comix.
But I also understand this is not quick work and you and Tabico have lives to live. Also would quicker issues have less thought behind them because of time constraints to get them out? I would never want this great series to be compromised that way. So It is easy for me or others to say, yeah, more, faster! But we aren't taking the time to do it.
I'm sure you two will come up with the best formula to try satisfy fans requests and the constraints on your personal time. I just don't feel it is my place to tell you what you should do.
2) I enjoy all the types and it just depends on the story as to what type should be used. Yellow by Tabico would be considered a 1/B to me. The victim's mind is totally destroyed and replaced with a seed that controls their mindless body. The story Adaption by Tabico would be a 3/C. The parasite grows into the brain and alters the victim into a total slave. Both stories are awesome and the mind control fits the story.
3) I would have liked to have seen Mel personally drone the Hatelaces. She could have used one of those control orbs on them and put them in conversion pods turning each one into a drone. BTW, CORE does have a conversion pod... I wonder if they ever use it?
4) No questions. The story was complete with no real loose threads.
5) The lip licking. I know this was intentional but I just can't remember the B movie it was from but I remember that part. It too had a parasite that invaded people and one of signs of being infected was they always licked their lip like that.
6)I really don't see this as a deviation from the overall story. The Division is Haven and crew VS the Hive but CORE is a high end police force VS a mind control society. There should be many different types of stories of them combating mind control. The Hive is a big threat to them but not the only one out there.
7) I would love to see Mel turned into a controller drone, with all her knowledge left intact. Perhaps she could still even work for CORE as a liaison between the Hive and CORE? I can't help but believe that Melcthion already knows she has bee compromised and wonder what her current game plan is. I would also like the see a story where a major threat (Alien invasion maybe?) forces CORE and the Hive to work together. It would be cool to see CORE agents working side by side with Hive drones. Maybe even have the CORE agent patched into the Hive network in order the command Hive drones in combat.
8) However many pages it takes to tell a full story. I understand that certain arcs are ongoing but to me the main story needs to be complete in a single issue. I don't mind if I have to wait for it, the story is still going to take just as long to get the full thing. Like this story. It was almost 200 pages. If you had broke it down into 30 page shorts would it have taken less time to finish it? I probably would have taken longer because you would have had to add break pages so it didn't stop in the middle of a scene. Every story doesn't have to be a 200 page epic though. If you have a smaller story throw it out there! But also, don't cut your stories short to save time either! So, my answer is make the story however long you need to.
2. I like 4C, which I used in my MC Stories 'The Horses', motivation change and bio-integration.
3. The whole retrieval of the glow rocks, although that might have made the narrative unbalanced and gave away the ending. With great respect, the glow rocks seemed a deus ex machina.
4. How much Melcthion knows about Rossi. It is inconceivable she has been duped. If she is plotting something, it would have to be beautiful and elegant. It is possible she is managing Rossi in the full knowledge that Rossi is a traitor, which means that she is playing Hive, which is risky. Given Rossi's loyalties, it seems strange that as soon as she knew this was a Hive operation she still went ahead and saved the day and did not sabotage her own mission, unless she was ordered to shut the operation down as Hive had stated they were going to do.
5. I like the cameos of other characthers, like Erin, Niobe and Phoebe. The snatches of dialogue as the briefing meeting broke up was good. Perhaps other ephemera could intrude peripheraly occasionally unless this becomes challenging.
6. I recognised that this was a self-contained story that did not necessarily advance the saga, and it worked like that. The 'Licky Worms' seem to deserve a place in the canon, as Melcthion has stated she is trying to manage the paradigm shift of Mind-control technologies, and a long hard look a Macquart operations, now that it has been exposed as a Hive operation is needed. Core would need to get a person on the inside of Macquart or to kidnap someone and use their own mind control technology to turn them. Certainly the two people Melcthion was conversing with could be secretly abducted, examined and turned, as Rossi has had done to her.
7. I would like to see what Erin and Niobe are up to with their new facility at the university and how Yuen Chi-en works with them and Hive. Phoebe Reiser seems somewhat under-used. Dr Exis' clone would be interesting as the character is the only supervillain whose wisecracks expose some of the unconscious pomposity of Hive.
As mentioned before a crossover with 'Aria' could be interesting. Core could be investigating the Hive's progressive subversion of the council, but get caught up in the politics of it all. Also Core has been somewhat reactive, discovering Hive and dealing with Exis' treachery. Its only proactive conduct has been when the Hive was infiltrated. Core could start trying to work out a strategy to deal with Hive and try to curtail and control its activities.
I have previoudly suggested that a new volume of biographies might be of use.
8) A hard limit of 100 pages might be useful to impose discipline on creativity. I am unsure of the time involved in rendering, but tighter frames with close-ups of expressions and action and more of them might be more kinetic and require less effort. But that's just me.
I do appreciate the work that goes on here and the way that this explores what it is to be human, with human sexuality and how this might be integrated into increasingly advanced machines that become sentient.
Keep up the good work!
(1) Loved the scene where Melcthion was talking to Marquart, but seeing only what the Hive chose to let her see. Very nicely done, and (to me) pretty hot too. And the payoff scene at the end, where Rossi delivers the hatelaces to the Hive. Everything about that one was perfect, especially the very last line: "CORE must hold no secrets beyond those Hive gives them." Fantastic way to close the chapter, and really makes you want to know what happens next!
(2) I somehow missed the mind-control 'types' but my favorite continues to be (by far) the droning of Rossi. I love that she's still (somewhat) herself, but utterly enslaved at the same time without her anyone really realizing it. (Though, I'm fairly certain that at this point Melcthion is at least highly suspicious.)
(3) Actually this one was pretty balanced and I wouldn't change much. I'm highly partial to Rossi's character and would always ask for more of her, but it wouldn't have suited this part of the story to have done too much of that. I'm pretty happy leaving the storytelling to Tabico ...
(4) Just the obvious question ... what's next!!!? Specifically, what is Task 2HH6? (page 189.)
(5) Back to my answer to #1. The 'videocall' scene was pretty great - both the concept and the graphics. Page 38 in particular (for some reason) really seemed to jump off the screen almost as if it were three-dimensional. Very cool.
(6) Perfect as a single issue. More on that, in my reply to #8 though. This one felt as if it were pulling several story threads together, rather nicely at that, so I'm not sure how else you could've done it.
(7) Personally, continued development and attention to the Rossi storyline. But I don't feel it's getting short shrift in any way ... I'm just greedy.
(8) I would've answered this "150+" before getting this installment, but from the perspective (now) of having to wait 9 months, I'm predictably thinking in terms of 25-30 pages. I did find myself gorging on it and reading too fast ... I enjoyed it much much more on my second (less frenetic) consumption. Seriously, 25-30 pages would be fantastic, but I find myself wondering if that would lend itself to better storycrafting or not. So ... whatever makes for better storytelling, works for me!
Thank you again, and thanks for reading my humble feedback, for what it's worth.
2) I like all of the levels they all sound very interesting how someone can be infected and openly help the parasite or be completely taken over
3) Can't think of anything i didn't see
4) What side effect with the removal of the parasites have moving forward will the characters maybe want to get reinfected
5) In the Transmission that Melcthion was having with mrs. Guerin i like you made it seem to Melcthion that nothing was amiss even though thing were clearly wrong
6) Yes i was very good a little detour ever now and there is okay
7) I leave those choices to you i trust you direction
8) do what makes you happy and not stress
2. I liked both types, both were innovative in their own ways.
3. More development in the Hive, is their a queen? Will we see one of the characters turn into that queen?
4. What will happen next? The police are being puppeteered by the hive and that is pretty big.
5. better textures of the characters. New software and tools?
6. I would prefer one dedicated to the hive honestly
7. More Hive and transformations please. Maybe some gender bending
8. 75-90 honestly